One question, why would I want to watch a movie or play a game around a corner? I also don't understand the need to have a window go wavy as it is moved around the screen. Other than that, I like the window transparency, dimming, etc.
Brian
-----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Jason Clinton Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:09 AM
This is the best demonstration of the new Xgl technology that I have seen yet. If you aren't really up-to-date on what's going on the eye-candy and graphics features area, check this out.
http://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi
-- Jason Clinton
On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 11:23 -0600, Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO wrote:
One question, why would I want to watch a movie or play a game around a corner? I also don't understand the need to have a window go wavy as it is moved around the screen. Other than that, I like the window transparency, dimming, etc.
Yea, those 'features' are marginally useful. The stuff that makes sense, though: applications 'minimize', literally, to the tray. Also, applications never have to 'repaint' their view ports because, as far as they are concerned, they are never covered by another window -- they are just rendering to an abstract GL surface.
Presently, when you drag a window around on your desktop, all the apps which were dragged over have to repaint their contents. That's why your CPU utilization goes way up.
On Friday 24 February 2006 18:44, Jason Clinton wrote:
Also, applications never have to 'repaint' their view ports because, as far as they are concerned, they are never covered by another window -- they are just rendering to an abstract GL surface.
But that doesn't need GL... any X server *could* abstract that from the clients...
Presently, when you drag a window around on your desktop, all the apps which were dragged over have to repaint their contents. That's why your CPU utilization goes way up.
I never managed to figure out *why* XFree86 and now X.org haven't abstracted that...
On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 06:56 +0000, Luke-Jr wrote:
I never managed to figure out *why* XFree86 and now X.org haven't abstracted that...
Hardware limitations. Now that the hardware is there, if you don't want to use GL, you can use the EXA extension to get the same effect.
On Saturday 25 February 2006 07:20, Jason Clinton wrote:
On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 06:56 +0000, Luke-Jr wrote:
I never managed to figure out *why* XFree86 and now X.org haven't abstracted that...
Hardware limitations. Now that the hardware is there, if you don't want to use GL, you can use the EXA extension to get the same effect.
What hardware limitations? The only limitation I can think of would be using more RAM, and that could potentially be video card RAM (as with Xgl)...
On 2/24/06, Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO brian.kelsay@kcc.usda.gov wrote:
One question, why would I want to watch a movie or play a game around a corner?
Remember that feature some of the more simple, yet very addicting DOS games had back in the day - the 'Boss Key'? :) A flick of a keystroke, and you're back 'around the corner' working on your spreadsheet like a good employee should...until the Boss walks back around the corner, and you can return to your game / movie / other time-waster. Same concept, just looks a bit nicer now...
I also don't understand the need to have a window go wavy as it is moved around the screen. Other than that, I like the window transparency, dimming, etc.
It's not always just about how /useful/ something is as eye candy generally is useless (hence the term 'candy'). There is absolutely no /need/, but it's very much O.K. to make things look really nice, and actually make use of the hardware capabilities in your computer that would otherwise go unused 99% of the time just because you /can/.
Of course, if you have hardware that can't handle it or it simply annoys you to see windows waving as you move them around, it's good that you can pick and choose the features you want, and can turn the others off.
A BMW 745i is just as functional as an '87 Toyota, but if you can afford the resources, one is definately nicer than the other.
<shrug>Just my 0g 0s 2c.</shrug>
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