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RE: found two definitions that made me laugh
by Brian Densmore 19 Oct '04

19 Oct '04

The next time Yellowstone erupts, New Orleans will be 5 inches deep in ash. Imagine 2500 Mt St. Helen's eruptions simultaneously. But it hasn't erupted like that in 600,000 years. Last eruption was 70,000 years ago. I'd be more worried about Mt St. Helen's which is N. America's most active volcano. > -----Original Message----- > From: David Nicol [ > > Yellowstone park is a huge caldera. The next time that > volcano erupts, Denver > will be waist-deep in ash. >

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Charity needs help selling off computer equipment
by Leo Mauler 19 Oct '04

19 Oct '04

I don't like spam, and I'm only mentioning this because many of you may benefit from it. The Community and Senior Service Center at 67th & Nieman Rd. (behind StoneBridge Wines & Fine Foods) in Lenexa, KS, gets a lot of donated computer hardware. I volunteer my time there testing most of the equipment they get, so I know most of what they have works. Everything I test gets a price label with information as to whether or not it works and how well it works. Anyway, they don't have a lot of space to store anything, and they have quite a lot of computer equipment which needs to go to people who need it. If any of you need things like monitors and keyboards, you should come by and check them out. Due to the lack of space most are priced to sell quickly. Used Monitors 14" and 15" go for $10 usually, sometimes a little higher but most of them are $10 right now. Used Keyboards, AT & PS/2, go for $3 each. Used Inkjet printers are $10. We're pricing all the miscellaneous cables, power, printer, whatever, at $1 each for a few more weeks. And for those of you wanting to do a little extremely low end experimenting, there are some 386 and 486 machines lying around for $3-$5 each (if nothing else, consider them a $3 used floppy drive). There's even one used Pentium 100Mhz with a CDROM! (ooooo!) Don't mind the duct tape on the cases, its crude security to keep the folks who open cases from stealing the RAM, CDROM drive, floppy drive, etc., then closing the case and walking away. Had two computers which were rendered nearly useless from that last week. So come on down, buy some hardware. All the food is free (1 sweet item per person) and sometimes they have fresh vegetables too. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com

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Re: BitTorrent + INDUCE Act + Linspire 5.0
by Brian Kelsay 19 Oct '04

19 Oct '04

Forwarded for your viewing pleasure: Commas added, spaces killed. And again, no. It was John Bigboote and Lord John Worphin. Yoyo Ma had no connection to Yoyodyne or Buckaroo Banzai. An yes, Yoyo Ma is a cellist, and a damn good one. A cello is related to a violin, at least. I was distracted. Read on. > Oren Beck wrote: > >> Monty J. Harder wrote: > > B: No, because I don't believe in Godwin. > >>> A: Well, yo mama dresses you funny! >> >> >> >> Yo mama ? wasn't he a violin player? >> >> Oren > > > No. That was Yoyo Ma. > > Was he the founder of Yoyodyne? As in, "wherever you go, there you are." The back to topic being, Yoyodyne has been used as a foo in .nix placeholder names. This lineage of humor has more grounding in objective realities than INDUCE does. The public perception sees Linspire, and the criminal aspects addressed by the misbegotten legislative FUD, as all one lump. Result being that, anti-copying/sharing legislation gets more good press than Buckaroo Banzai did. Hell folks, the logic used to assault our freedoms in ANY aspect of our mundane lives has begun to resemble the eighth dimension more than not. Sadly the unfunny part is that shite like INDUCE detracts from Linux as yet more FUD tarnishes Open Source. Every time another un-refuted salvo of FUD slimes Linux, and by extension all Open Source, it hurts our common cause. Anyone more able than I, at authoring some face-to-face verbal ammo to shoot down the fudmongers we encounter daily, is humbly begged to share it with us! Oren www.campdownunder.com "So, would listing on my resume that I am a Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems Special Operator help my employability?"

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RE: Re: Help configuring procmail (was: Help configuring fetchmail)
by Brian Densmore 19 Oct '04

19 Oct '04

Nope, that won't work for KCLUG mail. The "To:" field will not always, in fact hardly ever, have the proper recipient of the email. Hence, Matt's dilemma. You have to look at the crazy headers for KCLUG. I'd say he needs both of the approaches you stated. One filter by list and to by "To:". That *should* get most if not all filtered into his appropriate mailboxes. Now, I have to go to my server and play with some of these rules. ;') Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeremy Turner > > On Fri, October 15, 2004 11:36 am, linux(a)bizniche.com said: > > This is nearly what I'm looking to do. What I really want > to do, is.. > > > > _Anything_ that comes to linux(a)bizniche.com goes in one > folder, doesn't > > matter if it was sent to the address directly, or to a list > like kclug. > > > > _Anything_ that comes to matt(a)bizniche.com goes in another > folder, no > > matter where it comes from. > > Hmm.. > > So what you want is: > > :0: > * ^TO_.*(a)bizniche.com > accounts/`echo $MATCH | sed -e 's/[\/]/_/g'` > > This uses the dynamic technique for the mailing lists, but > applies it to > accounts. If you have "matt(a)bizniche.com", his mail will go into > accounts/matt. If you have "linux(a)bizniche.com", his mail > will go into > accounts/linux. > > I'd do some testing on this one, but this should work for you. > > Jeremy > > -- > Jeremy Turner <jeremy(a)linuxwebguy.com> > Linux Tips and News! ---> http://linuxwebguy.com > > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >

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RE: BitTorrent + INDUCE Act + Linspire 5.0
by Brian Densmore 19 Oct '04

19 Oct '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: Monty J. Harder > The majority thought the earth was flat, until > Columbus and Magellan proved them wrong. BS! This is a legend (as in urban legend). Everyone knew the Earth was round, especially sailors. This story came about because of a fiction novel written by I believe Dante. It's total BS to say people thought the Earth was flat. It was quite obvious, from any high enough mountain or on the open sea to see the curvature of the Earth. The problem sailors had with crossing the Atlantic was that they figured it was too wide to cross with the amount of supplies a ship could carry, and had there not been an American continent they'd have been right. The experts that laughed at Columbus did so because they knew his math was way off, he just got lucky in finding someone who was dumb enough to believe his math over the experts at the time.

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found two definitions that made me laugh
by Brian Kelsay 19 Oct '04

19 Oct '04

A book I'm reading about Mars mentioned caldera in relation to volcanoes, so I looked up the term. ------------------ cal·de·ra Pronunciation (kl-dâr, -dîr, käl-) n. A large crater formed by volcanic explosion or by collapse of a volcanic cone. caldera n : a large crater caused by the violent explosion of a volcano that collapses into a depression [Spanish, cauldron, caldera, from Late Latin caldria. See cauldron.] Brian Kelsay

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non-profit hosting and graphical web-dev, (was) really cheap domain name sale
by Brian Kelsay 18 Oct '04

18 Oct '04

Try bluefish for graphical web development. Brian Kelsay >>> Robert Kennedy <> 10/15/04 06:39PM >>> Speaking of inexpensive, and/or free, <snip>. My son arrived "somewhere in the sandbox" today with his Army Reserve unit. I've volunteered to be the Family Support Group's webmaster. I'd like to find an ISP who will work with non-profits. I figure on having the usual information web pages, a for members only message board and possibly mailing list, plus a modest amount of file storage. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Also, what graphic web page software do you all recommend? I can work with HTML directly, but an more comfortable with a GUI based program. (I run SuSE 9.0 ATM.) Again, suggestions please.

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Why I like Python
by Gerald Combs 18 Oct '04

18 Oct '04

When compiling Ethereal on a system with Python 2.3 installed, the following warning is printed (some of our code is auto-generated): ncp2222.py:2269: FutureWarning: hex/oct constants > sys.maxint will return positive values in Python 2.4 and up In other words, Mr. van Rossum is nice enough to let you know about upcoming changes in the language.

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Bittorrent
by Jonathan Hutchins 18 Oct '04

18 Oct '04

A resent question here brings up something that's bugged me too. Bittorrent is a great concept. It's community supported, and for files the size of installation iso's it's a better way to download. So why hasn't it replaced ftp completely? Because bittorrent doesn't work. When it does work, it works great. It works so well and it's such a great idea that people for whom it works often abandon conventional means of distributing files, leaving their projects completely in limbo if the torrents dry up, or if one of the many other overriding reasons bittorrent doesn't work should take them down. I don't want to get into a language war here. I know that there can be no growth without change. Part of the problem with bittorrent is that it's written in python, and python is an evolving language, so depending on what platform you're on, you may or may not have access ot a version of python that will run bittorrent. (I don't.) Although bittorrent pierces firewalls pretty well, it's not clear that it does as well outbound as inbound. This appears to stall the process in some cases, as you are expected to share your resources if you're going to participate in a torrent . The other problem, and one that I think has probably been what kept me from persuing bittorrent further, is that there are a lot of bad links to bad torrents out there - streams that won't launch, won't connect, for whatever reason. So the problem is that if you have a project that has "discovered" bittorrent, but has yet to discover all the potential problems it has, you end up with a project that's inaccessible to a large portion of it's potential audience. The standard OSS community response is to blame the users, and belittle their skills and knowledge because they can't get bittorrent to run. If anybody's listening, I have another idea. The traditional protocol for distributing software on the internet still works just fine. For a bittorrent project, it makes a great backup, and ensures that future torrents can be launched, even if there's a problem that takes down the original links. </rant>

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RE: Re: Help configuring procmail (was: Help configuring fetchmail)
by Brian Densmore 18 Oct '04

18 Oct '04

[OT?] Trivia tidbit. The Bat! is the *only* email client I've ever seen used by Russians and Ukrainians. I'm sure there are other email clients used by Russians and other former Eastern Bloc countries, but I haven't "met" those people. And to bring it back on to a Linux topic, I didn't see a lot of Linux used in Ukraine, but that may be because, Windows is for sale at pennies on the dollar over there. Not that I'm recommending such a purchase, but if a person were to need to buy several hundred dollars of Windows software, a trip to Ukraine would pay for itself. Of course, one might run afoul of the BSA by doing that. ;') Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Kelsay > >[snip] > I have GroupUnwise 6.03 here, which still sucks and I would > welcome Outlook (LookOut) or any other mail client including > Pegasus. The Bat! would be sweet. >

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